Last week, Georgian politician Igor Giorgadze unveiled the documents he had received from his homeland. From them it follows that the Pentagon could conduct experiments on people in the center of Lugar in Georgia.
Giorgadze, who served as Minister of State Security of Georgia in 1993-1995 years, is in Russia since 1995, after a conflict with Shevardnadze, he lives in Russia. According to him, scandalous documents were sent to him by friends. About what he suspects the Americans, as well as about the current relations between Russia and Georgia, the politician told in an interview.Ex-Minister was asked.
– When you first saw the documents, why did you look at it?
– The first thing that caught my eye were these reports for 2015 and 2016 on the number of deaths in the so-called laboratory of Lugar. In December 2015, there were 30 deaths, 24 of them in one day. In April 2016, there were 30 deaths, in August – 13. Medications, dosages are indicated, and in the column “Cause of death” all they have: “Unknown”.
The Pentagon found ridiculous data on experiments on people in Georgia.
The second is that against the background of the officially proclaimed goal of the laboratory’s work (“reducing the consequences of using weapons of mass destruction”) on its website we find a list of patents to which the laboratory staff is interested. Among them – a patent for “unmanned aerial vehicle for the spread of contaminated insects in the air.” In his description it is explicitly stated that the invention is intended “for infecting an enemy with deadly diseases and destroying it with minimal costs.” Also there is:
– A patent for a munition “with toxic contents for conducting sabotage operations.” Purpose – the spread of deadly diseases on the territory of the enemy;
– A patent for hollow ammunition for capsules with toxic contents. In his description, it is indicated that capsules can be equipped with various viruses for infecting enemy personnel;
– A patent for an unmanned aerial vehicle, “capable of spraying chemical and biological substances over areas occupied by the enemy.”
The question arises: if your goal is to “reduce the consequences of the use of weapons of mass destruction,” then why are you interested in offensive and sabotage weapons for the biological and bacteriological warriors?
The center seems to be engaged in treatment, but for unknown reasons 24 people die in one day, but the investigation is not carried out.
– Did the Russian authorities contact you? Still, we can talk about the production of bacteriological weapons on the border with the Russian Federation.
– Judging by the materials that at this stage it was possible to investigate, it is not about production, but about the possible development of such weapons, as well as about the possible testing of certain drugs, including on local residents.
As for the official Russian authorities, nobody came to me. But I and my assistants at the level of personal contacts addressed a number of well-known media persons with a request to assist in involving the expert community in the study of the materials we have.
Until the documents are examined by specialists, I would not like to rush with unfounded accusations. Today in the world there are enough examples of unsubstantiated accusations and, as a result, the terrible consequences of the measures taken on the basis of such accusations. Let us recall at least what consequences for Iraq the “Colin Powell test tube”, in which, as it turned out, was ordinary water, painted in white, turned out to be, rather than a sample of weapons of mass destruction. Iraq was bombed, the country’s president was hanged and, according to various estimates, 700,000 to 1,500,000 civilians were killed.
Against Iran the sanctions on the basis of “certain data” were imposed and it does not comply with the terms of the “nuclear deal”. There are many such examples in recent years.
Marines in front of the entrance to one of the palaces of Saddam Hussein. April 9, 2003. The war from the test tube. Why did the US really get to Iraq?
– Suppose, worst assumptions are confirmed: the Lugar Center is really developing bacteriological weapons. How dangerous is this?
– There is always the possibility of uncontrolled release of hazardous substances. This laboratory can become a target for criminals, for sabotage by terrorists of different stripes, after all, it can not be completely protected from natural disasters. I am absolutely sure that if the fears are confirmed, this threat affects the entire Caucasus, and not just Georgia.
The authorities of Georgia consider the data on experiments on people as absurd.
– How does the current Georgian government refer to the American laboratory?
- The new Georgian government, which came to power in late 2012, in early 2013, initiated a gradual transfer of the center to the jurisdiction of Georgia. This year, the process must be completed in full
- food laboratory to the Ministry of Health of Georgia, it will switch to financing from the country’s budget. Of course, our government is not interested in conducting any experiments on the citizens of the country. Now, out of fifty employees of the laboratory, 44 are our compatriots, citizens of Georgia and only six are US citizens. There is no rejection between our peoples. Since August 2008, 10 years have passed since the war. Now hundreds of thousands of Russian tourists come to Georgia. Our special correspondent Georgy Zotov was convinced that there is no hostile attitude towards Russians in the country. Trade continues. But diplomatic relations remain torn. Why?
– Despite the tragedy of 2008, there is really no rejection either in Georgia or in Russia at the level of contacts between people. About 1.5 million tourists came from Russia to Georgia this year alone. But the new government has inherited from Saakashvili the worst in the history of relations with Russia at the political level. The dilapidated buildings in Tbilisi are full, and it seems that they have not been repaired since the collapse of the USSR. They want Larisa Ivanovna again. How long do the Georgians feel about the Russians? For as long as the controversy over who was the instigator of the war continued, I believe that our countries are “doomed” to a normal, peaceful, good-neighborly coexistence in a good sense. A simple Georgian peasant who, cherishing every bunch, grows grapes on his land, needs a Russian market. Russia can drink all Georgian wine for three big holidays, eat all the citrus fruits, all fruits and vegetables that are collected in our country, and Russian prisons can drink all the tea they gather in Georgia in three to four months. Russia is an inexhaustible market for us! It is the very fact of its existence that tells us the way to the development of close economic ties. Still it is not necessary to forget, that in Russia live and work from 800 thousand to one million of my compatriots. Some of them have their own business in Russia, others came to temporary earnings and stayed here for years, some took Russian citizenship. But the main thing is our traditional centuries-old ties. Georgia is an Orthodox country. We are with the Russians co-religionists in the Orthodox faith and are associated with Russia through centuries of history and culture. Therefore, I am optimistic. There is a great inertia of negativity in our relations of recent years, there are big obstacles to the restoration of relations, but they are surmountable. I am sure that our countries will sooner or later restore good-neighborly relations. Business, nothing personal. How do Russia and Georgia live 10 years after the war? More, Saakashvili count in Georgia for nothing. In Georgia, soon presidential elections will occur, and Saakashvili is trying to promote his people. The person is under criminal prosecution, took another citizenship, but nevertheless enjoys popularity. There are people who are infected, like him, with cave nationalism. There are dissatisfied with the policies of the current authorities, who are ready to vote for the nominee Saakashvili simply out of a sense of protest. But the bulk of the population still does not support him. This man loudly announced the renunciation of Georgian citizenship in order to become governor in Ukraine, and to the presidents of this country. He argued to all the television cameras that he was Ukrainian. How can he then claim to lead Georgia? Therefore, I am sure that Saakashvili’s candidate from the party will not win elections.
- You are 23 years old in political emigration. Do you hope to return home?
- In 1995, the authorities of Shevardnadze announced me through Interpol on an internationally wanted search for a politically motivated, far-fetched pretext. The General Secretariat of Interpol examined the materials submitted by my lawyers about my illegal persecution for 21 years for political reasons and decided to withdraw me from the international search, which was announced to all 190 Interpol member states. Now I want to restore justice at home. My attorneys initiated the trial in 2015, now we are waiting for the court’s decision. I want to believe that in the very near future I will be able to visit the grave of my father, who was buried without me in 2009, I visited the graves of my relatives and friends, my friends and colleagues, a large number of them during these 23 years, to my great regret, I lost. I hope that I will return to my homeland.